of it i think a lot of it has to do -- i think people are more shocked by their right in california, paray yet in l.a.. tell us about that. how does it really change the black movement or just the way that people proceed? >> what does it do to the black community and white liberalism? what happens? >> the white liberalism what it does is they were shoulder to shoulder with blacks in the south and some of them have killed and after a while it is a setback. they are not non-violent people, they are hoodlums. they were burn baby burn. they were fighting the police and burning buildings and so, this sort of makes people cautious. they are not really sure what is happening here and they don't like what they see. i'm not saying that they give up on the freedom struggle. johnson doesn't give up on the freedom struggle and he continues to try to get legislation after this and he is staggered by this, how could this happen? he's done more than anybody by far, and he was just really shaken by this. but even johnson realized this enormously powerful speech at harvard university where he teach at the